Saturday, June 21, 2008

The Tower of Babel to Abraham (Gen 11)

Genesis 11

1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

  • This story of the Tower of Babel is EXTREMELY out of place. Last chapter, it talks about the "Sons" of Noah's Children, who's names are actually linked to other civilizations and cultures spread throughout the area like the Assyrians, Greeks, and Egyptians to name a few. Many of the cities and cultures linked to some of those names don't have much history, if any at all, before about 1500 BC, which is 800 years after the flood "supposedly" occurred. It goes into detail about how each of Noah's grandchildren were born and divided by their languages and nations.
  • So to summarize, the last chapter had to be a pretty big expanse in time after the flood in order to account for the world to be repopulated with enough people to eventually begin to migrate, settle, and develop their own languages, cities, and nations.
  • Now all of a sudden, this story seems to backtrack from the last chapter when it says "(Gen 10:5)By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations." That verse is basically saying that once people migrated, their own languages evolved on their own, which is basically what happens throughout history. No need for the story of "the Tower of Babel."

2And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

  • According to the last chapter, "they" who journeyed east is apparently Nimrod, the founder of Babel, along with his "crew." Now the Earth had to have been repopulated enough after the flood to have enough people as citizens of the many cities Nimrod founds, as well as the populations of the other civilizations in existence at the time.

3And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar.

  • Interestingly enough, the inven­tion of the fired brick is believed to have arisen in about 3000 BC in the Middle East from the archaeological evidence, which is 700 years BEFORE the supposed date of the flood. The earlier sun-dried mud brick is believed to have been used since 6-7000 BC.
  • After a flood which wiped out all of civilization save for a few people, all technology and tradeskills of each profession would eventually have to be rediscovered. It's ridiculous to think Noah and his three sons knew it all and taught everyone from that point on.

4And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

  • Their grand "scheme." It's interesting to note that "lest" is defined as "for fear of." This verse doesn't make any sense in this context. In other words, they're saying "Let us build a tower for fear that we be scattered across Earth." Ironically enough, they supposedly do get scattered. The author is writing this with foreknowledge.

5And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

  • God has to "come down and see?" I haven't seen one characteristic of God being omnipresent or all-knowing at all so far in the Bible since the beginning.
  • It's interesting to note that a tower big enough to reach into the sky would take many years, possibly up to 100 or more. This "city and tower which men builded" suggests that it was completed.
  • Why doesn't God get mad when we build our skyscrapers in the cities of today?

6And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

  • What is God so afraid of? What's wrong with working as one? What is wrong with having one language and nothing being restrained from us? Apparently, the only thing restraining us is God.

7Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

  • Let "US" go down? This is one of many plural verses of God. (Gen 1:26, 3:5, 3:22, 6:24)

8So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

  • So to confound our languages, God scattered us upon the face of ALL the Earth. This literally sounds like God picked people up, and put them in remote parts of the world, which is a violation of free will and obviously ridiculous.
  • This would make migration patterns unpredictable and with huge gaps, which is not the case. The migration pattern of man and civilization can ultimately be traced back to Africa in a linear and congruent time-line by tracing the colonization patterns and taking boat use into account throughout history.
  • This makes no sense on God's part. He's obviously afraid of something and needs to cause confusion and separatism. Not to mention it makes no sense in that it defies known history.
  • The only truth here is that as humans have migrated on their own, (but with their OWN LEGS, and not a God that forcefully teleported people all over the world) each of their languages eventually evolved in their own directions. The English language has roots that can be traced back thousands of years to other languages. This is the result of migrating and splitting up across the world on our own, which is exactly how languages change and evolve over time. This is known as a "living language," as opposed to a "dead language" that never evolves.

9Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

  • If God didn't randomly scatter people all over Earth, then he scrambled everyone's brains. What about writing? Did this little "scrambling" make people forget how to read and write the language that they once knew? The flood supposedly happened around 2300 BC according to young Earth Creationists. The first written language was invented about 3000-3500 BC by Sumerians, and language itself predates that by a long time.
  • Sumer is located in southern Mesopotamia, and is one of the earliest known civilizations in the world. It lasted from the first settlement of Eridu in the Ubaid Period (late 6th millennium BC) through the Uruk Period(4th millennium BC) and the Dynastic periods (3rd millennium BC) until the rise of Babylon(Babel) in the early 2nd millennium BC. The term "Sumerian" applies to all speakers of the Sumerian language.
  • The history of the rise of Babel(Babylon) clashes with the supposed date of the flood. Babylon cannot rise if it doesn't have the population on Earth to do so. Noah's sons need time to populate the Earth. Sumer, along with all the other cities that existed at the time, would have been destroyed by the flood, and not by the Babylonians. This is not the case.
  • Sumerians even have their own flood legend on their cuneiform tablets which predate the Bible's purported date. The Sumerian flood legend was passed down through oral tradition way before they invented the cuneiform writing and wrote about it. Sumerians even have their own "Eden." Babylon has their own flood legend known as "The Epic of Gilgamesh" that shares various similarities to the Sumerian story. It's becoming increasingly clear where the stories in the Bible have evolved from.

10These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood:

  • From the last chapter describing nations and languages having already been developed from Noah's sons, and then to the beginning of this chapter which tells the story of the Tower of Babel, which supposedly happens very shortly after the flood, it suddenly comes all the way back to Shem's bloodline up to Abram which pretty much negates the stories of the Tower of Babel along with the entire last chapter.
  • Something is NOT right here. If the flood ever happened, it was a localized flood. No animals and no people had to repopulate Earth. All nations, all languages, and ESPECIALLY all the religions on Earth did not evolve from just 3 families over 4,000 years.

11And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.

  • Again, these are not individual people, but cities, tribes, and/or civilizations based on region.
  • Also, before the flood, God said Man should only live to 120 years, but yet here we have people who are still living longer than that up to 500 years. This would normally be a contradiction, but most of this "bloodline" are apparently not individual people.
  • I'm beginning to think that these names were made to be portrayed as people with ridiculous life spans in order to somehow establish some kind of congruent timeline, as well as attempt to establish a divine bloodline from day 1 of creation to Jesus to revelation. A beginning and end, so to speak. It's the perfect cover up, and would indeed explain why people are given ridiculous ages of life in order to do so.

12And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah: 13And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters. 14And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber: 15And Salah lived after he begat Eber four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.

16And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:

  • In Genesis 10:26, it says that Eber begat Peleg, AND Joktan, then went off into Joktan's "bloodline." Now in this chapter, it goes off into Eber's bloodline which leads into Abram. It gives no mention of Joktan for some reason.

17And Eber lived after he begat Peleg four hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters. 18And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu: 19And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters. 20And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begat Serug: 21And Reu lived after he begat Serug two hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters. 22And Serug lived thirty years, and begat Nahor: 23And Serug lived after he begat Nahor two hundred years, and begat sons and daughters. 24And Nahor lived nine and twenty years, and begat Terah:

25And Nahor lived after he begat Terah an hundred and nineteen years, and begat sons and daughters. 26And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

  • It's interesting to note that Terah names Nahor after his "father."

27Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot.

  • Here Abraham is born.
  • The name "Haran" is used as both the son of Terah, and as the name of a city as well.

28And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees.

  • "Ur of the Chaldees" is a Sumerian city, and is one of the oldest known civilizations in history. "Of Chaldees" mainly describes where it is located. "Chaldees" was a Hellenistic designation for a part of Babylonia, mainly around Sumerian Ur, which turned into an independent kingdom under the Chaldees.

29And Abram and Nahor took them wives: the name of Abram's wife was Sarai; and the name of Nahor's wife, Milcah, the daughter of Haran, the father of Milcah, and the father of Iscah.

  • In Rabbinic literature, Abram is the daughter of Haran, which is Abram's niece. It was conveniently left out of the Bible of today for possibly that reason because it is incenst.
  • This verse does say that Nahor's wife is the daughter of his brother Haran, so it's safe to assume that Sarai is indeed Haran's daughter as well. The only child credited to Haran in the verse above is Lot, but here it says he had another child. It's very possible he had one or more not credited above in verse 27.
  • Again, bloodlines are VERY important throughout the Bible and history. Especially the bloodlines of Kings and Pharaohs.

30But Sarai was barren; she had no child.

  • At least for now.

31And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.

  • Here, Terah takes his family to Haran, which is a city. Ironically, Terah's "fathers" name was Haran.

32And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.

  • Terah was at least seventy years by the time he had Abram. So by the time Terah died, Abram is 135 years old. Now Abraham is 100 years old by the time he has Isaac, and Abraham and Sarah laugh at this because they have him in "their old age." Terah lives to see his two grandchildren, Ishmael and Isaac.
  • Sarah dies at the age of 127, and is about 10 years younger than Abraham. Terah outlives Sarah according to this.
  • (Gen 25:7-8)7And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years. 8Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people.
  • According to that, Abraham lived 175 years up to a "good old age, an old man, and full of years." Abraham's father died 40 years before that and apparently lived up to a better old age, an even older man, and fuller years. This is nonsense.
  • And people are STILL living lives greater than the "120 year max" God said people should live up to before the flood. This is a contradiction. Apparently, whatever God says DOESN'T go.


Noah's Children: The "Origins" of Nations (Gen 10)

Genesis 10

1
Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

  • These are not all the literal names of their children as we'll see. Some of these names are connected with, and/or literally translate into certain civilizations such as the Egyptians, Greeks, Babylonians, and Assyrians for example. It's amazing what a little research reveals.
  • This is attempting to explain all of the cultures, languages, and even cities. But keep in mind, some of these civilizations, especially the Egyptians, have history and origins stretching back way beyond 4,000 BC.
  • It's amazing the great lengths these authors have went to in an attempt to tie everything together and explain the existence of all these civilizations after the fictional flood that supposedly wiped everyone out effectively making us start all over again.

2The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

  • Japheth is traditionally seen as the ancestor of Europeans, as well as some more eastern nations. However, I find it hard to believe that the "children" of each child of Noah spread to certain parts of the world, and became the different cultures of the world. That is a process that has taken tens of thousands of years, not 4,000 years. If everyone of these civilizations has their own unique language and religions, then it's ridiculous to believe that they all came from one man and from one religion then suddenly decided to invent their own.
  • Gomer- linked to the Cimmerians (Gimirru) of about 800 BC.
  • Magog- has not been definitively linked to the name of any historical entity. However, a few secular historians link this name back to the Scythians.
  • Madai- is linked to "Medes," first appearing in Assyrian inscriptions as "Amadai" in about 844 BC.
  • Javan- This name is said to be connected with the "Ionians," one of the Original Greek tribes.
  • Tubal- Connected with the "Tabali," an Anatolian tribe, and both the Iberians of the Caucasus and those of the Iberian peninsula. (Modern Spain and Portugal.)
  • Meshech- Connected with the "Mushki Phrygian" tribe of Anatolia who, like the Tabali, contributed to the collapse of the Hittites around 1200 BC.
  • Tiras- Usually connected with "Thracians," who first appeared in written records around 700 BC.

3And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

  • Ashkenaz - Linked to the Scythians, who first appear in Assyrian records in the late 8th century. Additionally, in Medieval Hebrew, Germany is known as Ashkenaz, and is the origin of the term "Ashkenazic Jews."
  • Riphath - Possibly linked with Paphlagonians has been proposed, but is uncertain.
  • Togarmah - Some Armenian and Georgian traditions have claimed descent from Togarmah, other authors have attempted to connect them with Turkic peoples.

4And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.

  • Elishah- Identifications have been proposed with various Aegean peoples such as Elis of northwestern Peloponnesos or Ellis of Phthia.
  • Tarshish- Variously connected with Tarsus in Anatolia, or Tartessus in southern Spain.
  • Kittim- Usually connected with "Kition" in Cyprus, but name appears in other texts with a variety of interpretations.
  • Dodanim- Usually connected with large Aegean island of Rhodes near the coast of Asia Minor

5By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

  • This says that each of these "children" of Japheth were the Gentiles divided in their lands, each with his own language(tongues), in their nations. This verse confirms that these "children" are actually different nations.
  • It's interesting to note that it says these "children" were born with "their own unique tongues," and basically says that is the attributing reason why these people were divided into their own nations. This is nonsense.
  • If these "children" are literal people who went off individually and are the originators of all their respective civilizations and societies, then incest is unavoidable.

6And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.

  • Cush- The Empire of Kush to the south of Egypt is known from at least 1970 BC. This name is also associated with the Sumerian city of Kish. Sumeria predates the supposed flood back to at least 6,000 BC.
  • Mizraim- The Hebrew name for the Land of Egypt. It is a dual suffix with refers to the "two Egypts;" Upper and Lower Egypt. Egypt's history goes back as far as at least 10,000 BC alone.
  • This just goes to show you that all of these "Sons of Noah" are not the literal names of people, but are all the nations known to these people near the time of the writing.

7And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

  • I'm going to skip linking these people to historical tribes and/or nations. I'm sure you get the point already.

8And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. 9He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. 10And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.11Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,12And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.

  • Here it actually talks about an actual person, who founds many kingdoms and cities. I'm surprised it doesn't say these kingdoms are his "sons" or that he "begat" them.

13And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, 14And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

  • Here it says that Mizraim (which is literally Egypt) "begets" sons. This is simply not the case, and tells you how twisted this chapter really is.
  • All of these names have links to surrounding areas such as Libya, Crete, and Memphis. Memphis (Naphtuhim) was the ancient capital of Lower Egypt.

15And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,16And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,17And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,18And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.

  • Here, Canaan "begets" all of these "ites." All of these "ites" are actually cities. It would take a long time for these people to repopulate enough to even have one city. Then it takes even longer for them to eventually divide and start their own cities around the Earth which results in new cultures, languages, and then religions. We're talking thousands of years here, and this chapter is summing it all up like it took place in just a couple hundred years. It does not make sense.

19And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.

  • Here, it describes the borders of the Canaanites. It's interesting to note that one of these borders is Gaza, which dates back to about 1500 BC. This Chapter is going all over in the Biblical timeline compared to the real historical record. The flood supposedly occurred around 2,344 BC if Earth is about 6000 years old as creationists believe. The author of this is skipping up to at least 800 years ahead of it's time if a young Earth is the case.

20These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.

  • Again, languages, writing, countries, and nations take thousands of years to spread and develop, not a few hundred.

21Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.22The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.23And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.24And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber.25And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.26And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah,27And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,28And Obal, and Abimael, and Sheba,29And Ophir, and Havilah, and Jobab: all these were the sons of Joktan.30And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Sephar a mount of the east.31These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations.32These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.

  • Those verses just sum up more of the same crap.
Basically, this whole chapter is "trying" to account for all the civilizations and languages of the world and trying to explain their migration patterns. It's trying to make it fit in with a story of only 8 people repopulating the Earth after a flood that "supposedly" happened some 4400 years ago.
This chapter alone is defying the ENTIRE history of the Earth and the real history of languages and migration patterns of the human race from the stone age to the introduction of agriculture from the the historical and archaeological record.
It's ridiculous to think that man was created with instantaneously having a language. I highly recommend doing research of your own on human history, language and writing.

Next up: The Tower of Babel in all it's nonsensical glory.

Friday, June 20, 2008

Rainbows (Gen 9)

Genesis 9

1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

  • The fear and dread of Noah and his sons shall be upon every animal? This makes no sense.

3Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

  • As it has always been.

4But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

  • I actually agree with God here. This statement is talking about cannibalism.

5And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. 6Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. 7And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

  • God's first "thou shalt kill" law; The death penalty for murder.

8And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, 9And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you; 10And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth. 11And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. 12And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

13I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:

  • Here, God "invents" the rainbow as a promise. We all know God doesn't create rainbows. What is nonsense like this even doing in the Bible? Rainbows are optical and meteorological phenomena that cause a spectrum of light to appear in the sky when the Sun shines onto droplets of moisture in the Earth's atmosphere. Every grade schooler knows this.

15And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. 17And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

  • This conversation never took place. God wouldn't be "promising" anything to be in the sky if all these conditions already existed in the creation of the universe with stars, and in the creation of the Earth with water in the first place. This just goes to show you that whenever these people didn't understand something, they say "God did it."

18And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

  • Here, before we even get to the bloodlines of Noah's children, importance is already stressed on Canaan in order to be named in this verse.

19These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

  • Sure, Bible... Whatever you say.

20And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

  • "Began" to be a husbandman? And where did Noah miraculously get all these seeds that survived in what turned out to be a 40 day, then 150 day, then 5 months, then 7 months, then an 11 month flood? (It went from (7:11) "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month.." to (8:13) "And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth.." They didn't actually step off the boat until the next month.)

21And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

  • The "righteous" Noah also miraculously knows how to make liquor. It's apparently ok to drink and get drunk at least every once in a while according to God. The "only" righteous man on Earth God decided to save in the flood is obviously an accomplished wine maker and a drunkard.

22And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

  • Again, importance is stressed on Canaan before this even leads into the section of bloodlines in the next chapter. We'll see why here in a second.

23And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

  • Notice that Ham has done nothing but tell his brothers that daddy is drunk and naked.

24And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

  • Ham has done nothing but see Noah naked, tell his brothers, which resulted in Shem and Japheth covering him up. This doesn't make sense.

25And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

  • Why is the "righteous" Noah cursing his grandson for no reason at all?

26And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

  • Here we have Noah giving Canaan an order to be Shem's slave for no reason at all.

27God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

  • Here Noah is ordering God to "enlarge" Japheth, then ordering Japheth to live in Shem's tents, and again ordering Canaan to be a servant. Noah's a mean old drunk. You'll be surprised to find out that this is not literal, however.

28And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years. 29And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.

  • So far in the story, Earth is "supposedly" 2006 years old based solely on the ages of people given in the bloodlines of Adam.

The Flood (Gen 6-8)

1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

  • This is interesting. It suddenly goes from Noah being 500 to describing a general passing of time by saying "when men began multiplying and daughters being born unto them," then eventually back to Noah again. The next verse, which carries on with this sentence, gets VERY interesting.
2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
  • The "sons of God?!" People think this means the angels, but this cannot be. God is supposed to have only ONE son. If they're "angels," then why is God letting them "materialize" here on Earth from heaven, roam around freely, and also letting them take wives? Why would angels take wives? Why is God sanctifying the marriages of these sinful humans with his holy angels? This does not make sense.

3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

  • This verse is very disturbing. Did God mean he's going to leave us alone on Earth when he says "My spirit shall not always strive with man..?" Where the hell would he go?
  • The most disturbing part is God comparing himself with us as "flesh" by saying "for that he ALSO is flesh." If I compare myself to another man, I say "For he ALSO is a man."
  • Next, God merely says "his days shall be 120 years." Then miraculously, everyone's DNA and aging genes change all at once so that we don't live to be 900 years old. If people are over this age, then the process should start at this point. At the very least, this age limit would start with new pregnancies, which actually isn't so. Later on, Noah's grandchildren are still living lives of up to 500 years. This contradicts God's statement here.
  • If people lived for up to 1,000 years, and the earth is 6,000 years old, then we shouldn't find ANY human fossils older than 5,000 years except of course for Abel's remains.

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

  • This says that giants were in those days both before AND after these "sons of God" had children with human women. First of all, who are these "Giant sons of God" that can reproduce with humans? Every species MUST be genetically matched to reproduce. These "sons of God" MUST be humans, not any "spiritual holy angel beings."
  • It's also disassociating these "giants" from humans, meaning that there were two types of "people" around since the beginning that were somehow different from each other, but genetically similar enough to reproduce with each other. But why are they called the "Sons of God?"
  • Who is this "God" with "sons" roaming about on Earth? God up to this point has some very human qualities. He sounds more like a "lord" or "king," if you will, of this group of "Giants" which are his "sons." And he has certain qualities and descriptions of a geneticist such as having to put Adam to sleep, surgically removing a rib from Adam in order to literally "clone" a woman out of his genetic material, then surgically sewing Adam back up.
  • "God" almost sounds like an Extraterrestrial Group of "giants" who came down and genetically manipulated our evolutionary ancestors DNA with perhaps theirs which explains what is meant by "our image and our likeness (Gen 1:26)" and made us into "slaves" in the the Garden of Eden to "till the ground." Is this perhaps why we can't find our "missing link?" Strangely enough, this is very similar to the Sumerian's creation story, which dates back to before 6,000 BC.
  • It should be noted that in previous translations, these giants are called "Nephilim." Nephilim is a very fascinating word, and has a very fascinating history. I advise researching it.

5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

  • The very first verse so far in the Bible where God can supposedly "read your mind." He was incapable of this while Adam and Eve were being tempted, after they ate the fruit, when they "hid" from his "presence," and when he had to question Cain about where Abel was.
  • On the contrary, this isn't necessarily the case when the verse is taken in context and examined. If God is "seeing" that man is committing evil, then he can safely assume that their thoughts and imaginations are continuously evil. If you look at mass murderers and serial killers, you know that their imaginations and thoughts are continuously evil without even having to "read their minds."

6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

  • This is sad. God felt "sorry" for creating us. If God knows the Future, he would have known he was going to feel sorry for creating us to begin with. This doesn't make sense.

7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

  • This is horrible. God's only solution to the problem is MASS MURDER?! What would you do differently if you were an all powerful God? Would it be mass murder? If not, then you're a morally better person than God.
  • Also, people love to argue that "God doesn't break his commandment to kill, or "murder" as many suggest that is what the commandment means. They act like it's not "murder" if God has a supposed "law" against something that imposes the death penalty which is supposed to make his killing "justified." However, before God supposedly made these laws against anything with a death penalty that turned murdering into "justified killing," then EVERYTHING was murder. God has not issued any such commandments yet, so therefore, God murders. Even if these so called "laws" were already announced, he would still be murdering innocent babies and his "giant sons" in this flood.

8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

  • Now God contradicts himself from his earlier statement of "I will destroy man.." by letting one man live. God can change his mind and do whatever he wants. If he changes one thing about his personality, plans, or so called "promises" in the Bible at any time without letting people know, then the Bible is rendered Obsolete except for what little historical accuracy it has. He can do whatever he wants, when he wants, and he doesn't have to be nice about it.
  • It's interesting to note that there are hundreds of cultural flood stories, all of which "the Gods" announce the incoming flood to a person God wants to save, warn that person to build a boat, and fill it with animals and his family to repopulate the Earth. The biggest difference in the biblical story is that it is conveyed as a world flood, where as the flood stories that predate it only say it was a localized flood. I'll cover why it can't be a massive earth flood later as I come across each of the absurdities.

9These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. 10And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

  • Now the story all of a sudden snaps back from the "giant sons of God" tangent and back to Noah again just to reiterate him having sons again.

11The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

  • The violence has only begun. God causes WAY more violence in the future than man is at this point in the story, I'm sure.

13And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

  • Here is the famous warning of the flood to a person of God's choosing that resembles almost every other flood legend.

14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. 15And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
16A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.

  • God is giving the size and dimensions to Noah in these verses. God is quite the engineer.

17And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

  • Can't God just "zap" them out of existence? Why does he have to kill them with a natural disaster?
  • Everything on Earth shall not die. God is lying as I'll point out later when I get to the juicy bits.
  • Notice the "under heaven" part. It's in the context of "under the sky."

18But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

  • Here is where God promises not to drown Noah and his family. Noah has brothers and sisters he apparently had to turn away and deny entry of the ark if they asked him if they could come along. Hundreds, if not more of Noah's neighbors, friends, and townsfolk had to see Noah building a huge boat big enough to fit "all" the animals of the world, and they apparently didn't care enough to ask questions as to Noah's motives.
  • Hundreds of people would resort to violence and rioting in order to get on the boat and overthrow Noah should he deny them entry.

19And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. 20Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.

  • This is impossible to any logical thinker. Where did they get such animals as polar bears and penguins, among other animals indigenous to other climates and regions of the Earth? How did those animals survive the sudden change climate, and how did they get back to where they are now?
  • How were animals controlled from being violent, and kept from eating or killing each other? The death of just one of the males or females of ANY species would mean extinction for that species.
  • For certain herbivore animals, they only eat vegetation from their native parts of the world. How did Noah and his sons gather all of this, and how was it kept fresh for 150 days?
  • How did they keep meat fresh for the carnivores of the animals on the ark? How did Noah and his sons even know of these special diets? How did they get around to feeding millions of animals a day?
  • What are the guarantees that the male and female pairs will even survive and mate with each other either on the boat, or after disembarking? Lots of territorial species exist on earth today, and are known to reject many mates before finally choosing one.
  • The amount of time they had to gather up ALL the animals accounted for on Earth is impossible. And it does not account for the hundreds of millions of various species indigenous to very specific places on Earth according to both the fossil records, and where certain animals exist today.
  • Where did the dinosaurs come in? They're animals, too. Many people think the flood killed the dinosaurs. Contrary to real science, there is no evidence for a worldwide flood, and Dinosaurs aren't even mentioned in the Bible up to this point. Dinosaurs went extinct over 70 million years ago at least.
  • And yes, dating methods are accurate for many reasons. Carbon14 dating isn't even used on objects later than 50,000 years old, which excludes Dinosaurs from being dated with it for accuracy. There are other verified, accurate methods of dating fossils and remains other than C14 dating. Radiometric dating and fossils exclusive to only very specific geological rock layers which are accurately dated, for example.
  • If you can devise your own dating method, and verify it on objects of known dates, and compare it to objects dated millions of years ago and come up with conclusive results under close scrutiny and disprove every dating method used today, then please, for all of our sakes, do it.
  • According to the evidence of fossils in the geological fossil records, Earth has been through four mass extinctions in it's 4.5 billion year history, not just one, and certainly NOT a flood.

21And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.

  • That is a LOT of food to gather all while gathering up all the animals on Earth at the same time.

22Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.

  • Or so the story goes. It doesn't make sense at all so far. I honestly do not feel it is even necessary to continue on and destroy the flood story with logic, but I will anyway. It's fun to think and learn.
Genesis 7

1And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

2Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

  • Here it mentions clean and unclean beasts. The laws and descriptions of the differences of clean and unclean animals aren't even mentioned until two books later which were given to Moses in Leviticus. This story is written WAY after the supposed flood with the foreknowledge of clean and unclean beasts. It is obvious that it is incorporated into this story for some reason. It is plenty of time to be falsified and grow into the huge myth and legend it is as depicted in the Bible.
  • Here it mentions that "clean" beasts are to be taken by sevens, male and female. That's 14 of every "clean animal!" Multiply that by however many different species of "clean" animal there is on Earth, and you have an incredibly ridiculous amount of tons of weight. And that's not even including the "unclean" species yet.

3Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

  • The number seven is a VERY popular theme in the Bible as well as many other cultures. The Bible has 7 days of creation, the Sumerians have the 7 stone tablets of creation. The Mayans have 7 "stages" of creation.
  • The Mayans are another very fascinating culture with a VERY fascinating calendar.
  • Ian Xel Lungold has done amazing research on the Mayan calendar and has many great video lectures floating around the internet like on youtube and google.video.

4For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

  • Seven days in this verse has to do with the amount of time Noah had to gather all these animals.

5And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.

  • Noah did very impossible things in an impossible amount of time. Conclusion: The flood story is impossible.

6And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.

  • So far, 1656 years have passed in the story based on everyone's age beginning with how many years Adam was alive before he gave birth to Seth.

7And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood. 8Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, 9There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 10And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

  • Nothing special in those verses.

11In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

  • Pure nonsense in this verse. "Fountains of the great deep broken up" and "Windows of Heaven."
  • First of all, "fountains of the great deep being broken up" sounds like some kind of underwater "floodgate" bursting open and letting some kind of "hidden reservoir" of water locked away under rock loose.
  • "Windows of Heaven" literally means "windows of the sky" were opened. It sounds like the sky opened up like the sunroof of a car and water poured in. This is pure nonsense. People may say "this is a metaphor for rain," but it doesn't account for the "fountains of the deep" nonsense. But based purely on the way this verse is written, it almost depicts a flat earth with a magical sky opening up and a mysterious reservoir of water let loose from deep underground.
  • This verse is saying that water came in from both above AND below.

12And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

  • Now it says it's raining. Taken in the context of the last verse, it's saying that it's raining from an "open window in the sky," and not mentioning clouds that we associate rain with.

13In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark; 14They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort. 15And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. 16And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.

17And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

  • Meanwhile, nothing is written of the countless number of people who apparently do nothing but stare like dumbfounded morons at this huge miraculous boat that is apparently saving the lives of more animals than humans.

18And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

  • Was this the only boat on existence in earth? Hardly. The oldest boats to be found by archaeological excavation are longboats from around 7000-9,000 years ago, though a 7000 year-old seagoing boat made from reeds and tar has been found in Kuwait. Circumstantial evidence, such as the early settlement of Australia over 40,000 years ago, suggests that boats have been used since very ancient times.

19And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

  • This is EXTREME nonsense. First of all, fifteen cubits is roughly 23 feet. This is not enough to cover a 4 story building let alone high hill or a mountain. The Ark alone is 30 cubits high, which is about 45 feet tall. (Cubit is roughly 18 inches.)
  • Even if it was deeper than this, the salty oceans would overflow and the pressure on the ground and plant life would be extreme. The bottom line here is that, for over 95% of all plant life on earth, salt exposure kills and pressure exposure kills. How then is the extreme variety of plant life still in existence today?

21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 22All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 23And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

  • To that I say prove it.

24And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

  • God "telling" Noah or not. How would Noah even know the WHOLE Earth was flooded? 150 days is not NEARLY enough time to sail around the world or even very far with apparently no sails or even ores. It's just dead weight with tons of animals resulting in tons of weight. How is this miracle boat even structurally sound enough to carry all this weight and not break or capsize during waves? Now if you think the Earth is Flat, and the horizon is all there is to Earth, then maybe you would think the whole world was flooded. Otherwise, there's no way to no for certain beyond your field of view.

Genesis 8

1And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters assuaged;

  • This verse is humorous in that "God remembered Noah" as if he somehow forgot. And God does not make wind pass over the Earth. We know that nature does that on it's own.

2The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;

  • Here we go again with the "fountains of the deep" and "windows of the sky" nonsense. It's also worth noting that anywhere around the Earth, it is always raining 24/7 somewhere. Is there a constant worldwide flood as a result of constant rain in various places all over the Earth? Of course not.

3And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.

  • Just where did these waters "return" from off the Earth continually? Probably sucked back in through the "windows of the sky" and the "fountains of the deep." I smell so much nonsense I can taste it.

4And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

  • And lots of people love to claim they found it.
  • Can it be proven to be Noah's ark? No.
  • Does that make this whole story true about a worldwide flood? No.
  • Is it proof that EVERY animal on Earth was carried on it? No.
  • Does it account for EVERY different species of animal on Earth? No.
  • Does it account for the multitude of the various species of plants found only in specific areas on Earth? No.
  • Will it disprove science, logic, evolution, geology, astronomy, and astrophysics? No.
  • Will it prove the existence of God? No.
  • Will it make the flood story, along with the other stories in the Bible any less of a myth? No.

5And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

  • The tenth month? In Gen 7:11, it says the rain started on "the second month." That's about 240 days according to our Gregorian calendar of today. This verifies that their methods of timing years and months had to be WAY shorter than the way we measure a year today. This would account in part to the ridiculous ages of people.

6And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:

  • Time is flopping all over the place here. One minute it's "40 days." The next minute it's "150 days." It goes from "the 2nd month" when the rains started, to "the 7th month" when the ark rested, then to "the 10th month" when the tops of the mountains were visible. The contradictions and the nonsense in these time frames are ridiculous.

7And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. 8Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; 9But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. 10And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; 11And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. 12And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.

  • The birds and the olive leaf nonsense. Interestingly enough, other flood myths predating the Biblical flood have this same part in their stories regarding birds and leaves.

13And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry. 14And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried.

  • The rain started in the 2nd month of the 600th year of Noah's life. This verse is saying that it took 11 months for the "face of the ground" to become dry, then 12 months for the "face of the Earth" to be dry. How can you know if the whole Earth is dry when your obviously stuck in one place? If the ground you see is dry, then the rest of the Earth should be dry, too. More nonsense.
  • Officially, 1 year has passed. It's impossible that they had enough food for 1 year for all of the animals. This story is laughable.

15And God spake unto Noah, saying, 16Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons' wives with thee. 17Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth. 18And Noah went forth, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him: 19Every beast, every creeping thing, and every fowl, and whatsoever creepeth upon the earth, after their kinds, went forth out of the ark. 20And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

21And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

  • Now God has an amazing sense of smell, and upon smelling these "sweet savours," he felt pity and remorse for the mass murder of everyone. It's interesting to note that God "said in his heart." How does the author know what God "says in his heart?"

22While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

  • While the earth remains? So one day, God is going to go "poof" and make the Earth vanish thus rendering our existence pointless and this so called "heaven and hell test" complete.

This story is obviously a huge myth due alone to the abominations of logic, science, and reality. I find it hard to believe that people actually buy into it. Do they really read it and think about it, or do they just kind of skim through it without critical thinking and avoid the uncomfortable parts?

The only interesting part of this whole flood story is the very beginning of chapter 6.

Thursday, June 19, 2008

From Adam to Noah (Gen 5)

1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

  • It's interesting to note that this says that this is "the book of the Generations of Adam." This suggests that Genesis is a compilation of many books separately written over periods of time thrown together, and even possibly made to fit into some kind of chronological order. Now Adam, as we'll see in the next verse, as well as hinted at in previous verses and also generalized by the word "man/the man," is actually the name of a colony of men. In the last chapter, it went off into a tangent of six generations of Cain, then suddenly went back into the time of Adam and Eve's generation of children to start all over. It is actually unknown how much time has passed thus far since the beginning of the creation story because it has never actually stated just how much time actually passed before Eve at the fruit.

2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

  • Here, male and female are generalized as "them," and "their" name is Adam, in the day when "they" were created. This coincides with Genesis 1:26. Adam is indeed the name of a colony of men. In various other ancient texts and legends, they are actually referred to and called "Adamu." In the Bible's case, they should be called the "Adamites."

3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

  • It's interesting to note that here we have "in his own likeness, after his image" again as in the context of God creating man in his image. This verse clearly puts it into the context of Seth looking like his father. People like to argue that "God always existed," and that we needed a creator in order for us to exist ourselves. But how can a being that has a human form always exist without needing a creator himself? Our form comes from physical matter. Where does the matter come from for God's physical form? How can he be omnipresent if he has a defined form? And where does his power to spontaneously create matter come from?

4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

  • Here, Adam has many children, but only Seth seems to be important enough to name. Specific bloodlines are a VERY important theme throughout the entire Bible. With that in mind, the only reason all these names mentioned here in this "book" of the generations of Adam are important enough to mention by name is because it follows a specific bloodline path straight to Noah.

5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

  • Here, Adam lives a total of 930 years, which is naturally impossible. It's more likely that ancient methods of timing a year were very different and much shorter. It's interesting to note that later on, God supposedly makes the age limit about 120 years. God sounds like a Geneticist who messed with DNA and our aging genes. Or perhaps it's more likely that a method of more accurately timing a year was discovered and later applied.
  • It's also worth mentioning that the ancient Sumerians deified their kings with ridiculous ages up to around an incredible 28,000 years through oral tradition, but when writing started become more popular in their culture, their records regarding the ages of their kings began to be realistically depicted. I will also mention again that Sumerians have incredible carvings and records of their origins that will amaze you. I highly recommend learning about them. Zecharia Sitchin has done incredible work in that field.

6And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: 7And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:

  • Here again, and throughout the rest of these generations of Adam up until Noah, it mentions that of all the children Seth has, importance is stressed on only Enos.

8And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. 9And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:

  • It's interesting to note that "Cainan" could very well be either named after Cain, or Cain himself, but with "an" at the end of the name in this verse. If Cainan is indeed Cain, then he is the descendant of Adam by 3 generations of children.
  • The Hebrew, Aramaic, and Egyptian languages are interesting in that vowels and even some consonants are interchangeable. For example, the Egyptian sun God "Amen" can be spelled "Amen, Amun," or "Omon" along with other spellings.
  • I'll point out some striking similarities with names in Cain's Bloodline, and Adam's bloodline later on as I get to them.

10And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: 11And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died. 12And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel: 13And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters: 14And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died. 15And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared: 16And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters: 17And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died. 18And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:

19And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

  • Now here is possibly a second Enoch. Ironically enough, he came after Cainan.
  • Now if Cainan is indeed Cain, then Enoch is a 3rd generation descendant of Cain like "Cainan" is a 3rd generation descendant of Adam.

20And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

21And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

  • Now here's where it gets interesting. In Cain's bloodline from the previous chapter, Enoch gives birth to Methusael. As I mentioned earlier, ancient languages from Egypt and before, vowels and some consonants were interchangeable. Methusael and Methuselah are very strikingly similar, and very possibly the same person as I'll point out soon.

22And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:23And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

  • 24 is a very famous verse. This does not say where God took Enoch, but people assume it's heaven. People also take the phrase "walking with God" as a metaphor of serving God. Where did God take him exactly, though? So far in the Bible's context, heaven up to this point is literally the sky. This sounds more like a UFO abduction more than it does God giving Enoch a shortcut to heaven by avoiding death. Not even Jesus was given this "shortcut" of avoiding death.

25And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.

  • In Cain's bloodline, Methusael gives birth to Lamech. This verse pretty much confirms that these bloodlines are the same. Cain's bloodline compared to Adam's bloodlines are incredibly similar when viewed in the right way.
Adam- ...........................Adam- 2 generations -
Cain- .............................Cainan- 2 generations -
Enoch -2 generations-........ Enoch -
Methusael - ....................Methuselah -
Lamech - ....................... Lamech -
Jabal, Jubal, Tubalcain- ... Noah -
-END-............................ Shem, Ham, Japheth

  • If Cain was cast out and away from where Adam resides, then what do you think the odds would be of some of these people are naming their children some similar and exact names that Cain named his children? The odds are overwhelmingly very small. This is supposed to be in a time where people were inventing names. Common names shouldn't even be established by now in the story.
  • Either which way, everyone is of Adam's bloodline. The only difference is that between the two stories of these generations of father and son, Cain's bloodlines in the previous chapter has a more likely chance of being shortened up and generations skipped in some way for whatever reasons.
  • In this chapter, Adam's bloodline up until Noah seems to be a more complete version of Adam's bloodlines. Cain and Able should be the first sons mentioned, not Seth. People assume it skips them in this part since Cain and Able are mentioned in the last chapter. That may not be the reason, however.
  • In the beginning of this chapter as I mentioned, it says "This is the book of generations of Adam." So this is probably a separate account and therefore the most accurate of the bloodlines compared to the portrayal of Cain's bloodlines in the last chapter. Also, no references of time were mentioned in the last chapter depicting Cain's bloodline.

26And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters: 27And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died. 28And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

29And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.

  • Now this is VERY interesting in two ways. One is that it's prophetic in a way by saying "Noah shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands-" How can Lamech know anything about what Noah is going to do before Noah is grown and does it? God is not credited as telling Lamech anything. This suggests the author of this book has some kind of foreknowledge. (This same application of foreknowledge can explain why many of the "prophecies" throughout the Bible seem to have been fulfilled. They were MADE to be fulfilled by the authors when the stories were finally wrote down and/or edited when they were put together into one book or document.)
  • The last part is "-the ground, which the Lord has cursed." When did God supposedly "curse" the ground? The answer to that is when God cursed the ground of Cain for killing Abel when God said "When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength." (Gen 4:12) This is definitely another link along with the names in Cain's bloodlines from the last chapter and in this chapter of Adam's bloodlines.

30And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:

  • In the last chapter, Lamech is said to have had two wives, and had at least three children that were named. This chapter and verse confirms that Lamech had more children than Noah that are not named here. As I pointed out earlier, only the name of the important children are listed here out of all the children that each of the respective parents had. Lamech's other children aren't important enough to name in this chapter, which is "the book of the generations of Adam."

31And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.

  • Lamech lived to be 777 years old. People associate 777 as God's "number" compared to the Devil's "number" of 666. Just figured I'd point that out.

32And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

  • In this verse, the author listed the names of all three of Noah's sons because he thought that they important enough to name. And we all know why that is.
  • By the time Noah is 500 years old, 1556 years have passed based on this chapter alone. If you add the 95 years that Noah's father has left after Noah turned 500, then it's 1651 years.
Overall, this chapter is VERY interesting in that it ties cain's bloodlines from the last chapter with this chapter of Adam's bloodlines. No one seems to have caught the similarities I pointed out, at least no mainstream sources that I've heard from. I guess you begin to notice these things when you take the time to write and think about each individual verse.

Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Cain and Abel

Genesis 4

1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

  • Adam and Eve got it on, Eve got pregnant, and had a kid, then credits God for it. God does not "give" people children no more than he gives animals their offspring and makes eggs hatch. It is also worth noting that there is no indication how long Adam and Eve were "slaves" in the Garden of Eden so far in the story before they ate the fruit.

2And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

  • The second birth. It's worth noting that now there is a shepherd all of a sudden instead of farmers like Adam, Eve, and Cain.

3And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.

  • Why is Cain bringing food to God? Does God need to eat? If God doesn't need to eat, then what does he do with the food offered to him? Does he just let it sit on the ground and rot?

4And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

  • And now Abel is bringing God meat. These brothers are apparently competing for God's approval by offering things from their respective professions. God has made no mandatory requirements for people to bring "offerings" to him yet, but here they are doing it anyway. And God respects him for it. Does God also let the carcass sit there and rot? Why does God even care about any offerings at all, let alone a meat offering over a fruit?

5But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

  • Now God disregards Cain's offering, shows no respect, and Cain gets upset at Abel for no real reason because it's clearly God's fault for disrespecting the offering.

6And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

  • Why does God have to ask Cain what is wrong if God is known to be able to read minds and know everything about everyone at once?

7If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

  • God tells Cain if he does well, then God shall accept him regardless, and if he doesn't do well, sin shall rule over him. Well what is sin at this point? There have been no laws or commandments passed so far that qualify anything as a "sin." God hasn't given any "thou shalls" or "thou shalt nots" in regards to anything yet but not eating of the tree of knowledge. But that's in the past and over with by this point, so it's a sin that can no longer be commited.

8And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

  • The first murder. God's little "talk" with Cain in the last verse apparently meant nothing to Cain at all. Why would Cain even get mad enough to kill his brother only because God didn't respect his offering? This is a very petty reason.
9And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
  • The first lie. Here we have God asking questions he should already know if he's omnipotent.

10And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

  • All of a sudden, the answer hits God because of "blood with a voice." If not for this "talking blood," God wouldn't have known Cain was lying. This is a very strange characteristic of both God and Blood.

11And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

  • Cursed "from" the Earth? The Earth is a "her," and has a mouth? I'm sure this is all metaphor.

12When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

  • This is the first verse where God has to have the characteristic of omnipotent and omnipresent in order to make sure Cain's "curse" is sticking to him. God must always be watching over the Earth wherever Cain is "tilling" the ground in order to make sure the Earth isn't "yielding unto Cain's crops her strength." This curse is actually more like a cursing of his crops. Weird.

13And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

  • These verses don't make a lot of sense. First of all, Cain is talking about being driven off the face of the Earth. This does not make sense. You can't leave Earth, unless of course it's flat and you can fall off. But we know that's not the case. Secondly, God has a face to hide from? How can you hide from God if he's omnipresent? Third, why is Cain so worried about being found and killed by anyone if the only people that are on Earth right now are supposedly Adam, Eve, and Cain? This does not make sense, either.

15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

  • How can vengeance be taken on Cain "sevenfold" if the vengeance to be taken on him is death? You can't kill someone seven times. And what kind of "mark" does God put on a man to let others know to kill him on sight? Sounds like a wanted poster. Why doesn't God just kill him? God commits mass murder a lot throughout the Bible for various petty reasons.

16And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

  • Apparently, God's presence has a limit. This eliminates God making sure that the Earth Cain's crops is grown on is cursed. Now the next part is VERY interesting. The land of Nod roughly translates as the "land of wanderers," which coincides with Cain being a vagabond. So apparently, as we'll see later, the land of Nod is actually more like a city. Also, east of Eden is not "off the face of the Earth."

17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

  • This is interesting. Cain's "curse" doesn't seem like much of a curse at all. Cain all of a sudden has a wife, a child, and builds a city all by himself. Where did this wife come from and where did these people in the "land of nod" all of a sudden come from? And how does this city Cain builds miraculously have a population? A city is not a city without people in it. This makes NO SENSE AT ALL. The only people supposed to be alive right now are Adam, Eve, and Cain.

18And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

  • An interesting thing to point out is Enoch begins to have children, and a wife is not mentioned. Incest was actually very commonly practiced in ancient times for reasons of bloodlines, and there are multiple cases of incest in the Bible. The mother of Enoch's children could very well be Cain's wife, or a sister who is not mentioned. If his wife and mother of his children is outside of his family, then this verifies that there were other people around for Enoch to have children with.

19And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.

  • Here we have two wives for Lamech. Polygamy was very common in Biblical times as well. This is pretty much adultery according to todays standards and laws. But as long as you're legally married to two or more wives, then this wouldn't be adultery I suppose.

21And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

  • This is interesting. In the first hundred or two years or so of the first generations of people, they create musical instruments. The harp, which in the Hebrew origin of a harp is more like a lyre, and can be traced back to about 4,000 BC in Egypt. The organ instrument, which is translated from the Hebrew word "magrepha" can only be traced back to about as far as 1000 BC to King David, but it's certain that King David isn't the one who invented it. The name of one of the parts on a magrepha organ can be traced back to having Egyptian roots. King David is said to actually have both of these instruments. However, Egypt isn't even supposed to be in existence in the story so far. Also, it is incredibly unlikely that one man invented these two instruments in his lifetime. The "magrepha" is actually quite complex. The history of these instruments alone are contradictory of this verse in the Bible.

22And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.

  • This verse is fascinating. Here is an "instructor" of the metalworking of brass and iron. Being an instructor means he had to have a teacher Tubalcain learned from that learned from someone else and so on. The historical record shows that remnants of ancient mines have been found all over what is today the Middle East. The end of the prehistorical beginnings of metalworking occurs sometime around 6000 BCE when copper smelting became common in the Middle East. This verse is saying they were already on to brass and iron. Metalworking and all of it's techniques weren't just "suddenly" invented. It was a process that took thousands of years to develop and refine into multiple techniques and specialties. Creationists believe the Earth is around 6,000 years old according to the Bible, but even the simple history of metalworking alone puts it well over 8000 years old.

23And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
24If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

  • I see little importance here of anything other than a mention of Cain and avenging death 77 fold instead of 7 fold. A weird statement indeed.

25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

  • It suddenly ends the Generations of Cain and goes back to more of Adam and Eve's generations. This goes back in time because the story went off into Cain's family bloodlines and accounts for 6 generations of children. All of which grew up and had children of their own and so on. It's interesting to note that the Bible has ridiculous ages for people that it mentions soon after this chapter, and most of them don't have their first children until they're about 100 years old or so on average. So it pretty much went up to about 600 and more years ahead of time or so in the story so far, then came back in time to continue on with Adam and Eve's bloodline.

26And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

  • This is interesting because it says that people began to call upon the name of the Lord. Kind of like prayer, I suppose. God actually has at least three names sourced from various ancient texts. "Elohim, Jehovah, and Yahweh."
This whole chapter contains nonsense and has quite a few errors and anomalies. One of these anomalies is when Cain is banished, he somehow mysteriously and suddenly has a wife, has a child, and then builds a city with a population that miraculously appears. As I've pointed out before, there are verses that suggest that "Adam" is actually the first colony of men, not a single man. (Gen- 1:26, 5:1-2) Many verses make more sense when Adam, and even Eve in some cases, are considered as colonies. With enough time, people of the "Adam" civilization would eventually spread out some. This would account for these wives and populations that miraculously appear.
And yet, the popular belief is that Adam and Eve are two individual people. This is why people should carefully read the Bible and put EACH verse into their own contexts and cross reference things like I mention above. The Bible suddenly becomes VERY interesting in some ways when read and thought about properly.