Sunday, May 25, 2008

Does God Know the Future?

This is a huge question that most people either don't think about, or realize the implications of.

First I'd like to point out a couple links.

whywontgodhealamputees.com

Godisimaginary.com Proof #6- "God's Plan" This points out some major disturbing implications if God really knows the future.

Those are fascinating sites with 50 arguments against God as portrayed in the Bible. Some of which made me laugh in their simplistic nature. I was already an Atheist long before I came across that site which actually addressed some of my own reasons for dropping my own faith. It only made me think deeper on a few more things.

Some websites that I list below attempt to refute Marshall Brain's websites. Check them all out and come to your own conclusions, but don't accept anything at face value, not even what I'm writing. Think for yourself on the implications of everything.

brainisignorant.blogspot.com

weknowgodisreal.wordpress.com

Marshall Brain's Godisimaginary.com Proof #6- "God's Plan" starts off with this:

"God's plan" is the way that Christians traditionally explain things like amputations, cancer, hurricanes and car accidents. For example, if a Christian dies a painful and tragic death because of cancer, she dies as part of God's plan. Her death has a purpose. God called her home for a reason. Even if something bad happens to a Christian, it is actually good because it is part of God's plan.

That is very disturbing, and unfortunately, is what some people believe without realizing the further implications of statements like that. I've heard things like that from others, and I'm sure you may have, too.

Marshall Brain's Godisimaginary.com Proof #6- "God's Plan" goes on to say:

You can see how pervasive "God's plan" is by looking in Christian inspirational literature. For example, if we look in the book A Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren, we find this remarkable paragraph in Chapter 2:

Because God made you for a reason, he also decided when you would be born and how long you would live. He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death. The Bible says, "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16]

There is also this:
Regardless of the circumstances of your birth or who your parents are, God had a plan in creating you.

Under this view of the universe, God plans everything.


That's not very fair. Some people refute Rick Warrens book by saying he's not a credible theist, and that his interpretation of the verse "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16] is flat out wrong. They also refute it by saying "God doesn't know the future because we have free will, so anything can happen."

  • What qualifies one person's interpretation of a verse to be more correct than another interpretation? A degree in theism? The higher score on an IQ test? There are theists in the fields of every different religion. To say one religion is the correct one over all other religions is saying that EVERY theist of any other religion with a college degree in their fields are wrong and less intelligent than your religion's theists are. That is arrogant and condescending.
  • If that Bible verse is wrong, then what other verses like that in the Bible are wrong? Some people say that the authors of the individual books in the Bible were "inspired," not dictated.
  • If God didn't "dictate" to the authors, then whatever is written throughout the Bible can be limited to only an individual author's beliefs, ideas, and stories that he's been told and believes from what has been passed down through oral tradition. Anything that is written in the stories in the Bible can be purely falsified disinformation. Anything written from a 3rd person perspective that long ago cannot be proven to be an eye-witness account. The author of any of those books only knows what he was told and what he believes if he was not a witness.
  • What do people mean when they say it was "inspired?" That God sent them feelings and emotions to grab ink and a quill and put these stories to paper? If that is the case, and every one has free will, then even if God "inspired" them to put those stories to paper, then they can write whatever they want. It doesn't have to be truth in any way. They have the free will to write whatever they want.
  • If God doesn't know the future, then everything that happens is just a coincidence. That includes the Bible, the discovery of all the texts, and King James forming a group tasked with putting the Bible together in it's current form.
  • What is the point of any kind of plan at all with an undetermined future? Any plan God makes may never come to pass in the first place if free will prevails. It's all just chance and coincidence.

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